{"id":591,"date":"2020-08-20T03:19:56","date_gmt":"2020-08-20T03:19:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.truebluehealer.com\/?p=591"},"modified":"2020-08-20T08:58:18","modified_gmt":"2020-08-20T08:58:18","slug":"lay-gnosis-36-on-death-and-militant-atheists-nihilists-denialists-michael-tymn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.truebluehealer.com\/index.php\/2020\/08\/20\/lay-gnosis-36-on-death-and-militant-atheists-nihilists-denialists-michael-tymn\/","title":{"rendered":"Lay Gnosis 36 on death and militant atheists, nihilists, denialists Michael Tymn"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td><strong>Hitting the Wall, then Oblivion?<\/strong>  A blog by<strong>\u00a0Michael Tymn<\/strong><br><br>Michael Tymn is an afterlife researcher. <strong>Subscribe to him people<\/strong>. He republishes lost forgotten 19th century afterlife books showcasing numerous prominent scientists and was previously a professional skeptic, namely an insurance assessor<br><br><a href=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/michaeltymn\/entry\/hitting_the_wall_then_oblivion\">http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/michaeltymn\/entry\/hitting_the_wall_then_oblivion<\/a><br><br>Posted on 17 August 2020, 8:50<br><br>  Hurricane Douglas on a direct path toward Hawaii, where I live,\u00a0 during the last week of July, I had doubts about making it to my next age milestone of 1000 months on August 2.\u00a0 Hurricanes are fairly new to us, apparently the result of global warming, and the homes here are not constructed to resist such strong winds.\u00a0 We have few shelters \u2013 just enough for the homeless \u2013 and we can\u2019t jump in our cars and flee from it as people on the mainland do.\u00a0 Thus, as Douglas moved closer and closer, I had visions of flying off with our house while grasping the leg of the heavy oak table in the dining room and embracing my wife.A much greater fear was that I would survive the hurricane with no house and all worldly goods strewn over the nearby mountain range.\u00a0 I could envision living my final days in this realm of existence in a grass shack much like the one in the accompanying photo.\u00a0 If my house were to survive the hurricane winds, I thought about the good possibility that we would be without electricity for weeks, if not months, and I recalled the time a few years ago when less-than-hurricane winds left us without electricity for the better part of a day, during which time the temperature in the house, with windows boarded up, rose to an almost unbearable 115 degrees.\u00a0 Those fears of living far outweighed the fear of death.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"236\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_pics\/blogs\/tymn\/shack.jpg\" alt=\" shack \">The conviction that I will survive death in a greater reality does much to mitigate the fear of death, whether from a hurricane or bodily functions shutting down.\u00a0 Many of my friends share such a conviction, but I have encountered a number of nihilists who say they do not fear death because they\u2019ll never know it when they are dead.\u00a0 They think like Lucretius, the Epicurean poet, that death is a restful sleep. \u201cPersonally, I\u2019ve never been persuaded by the argument that \u2018oblivion\u2019 is a terrible fate,\u201d lawyer David Niose, a past-president of the American Humanist Association, expressed this humanist view in\u00a0<em>Psychology Today\u00a0<\/em>a few years ago. \u201cSure, given the choice of living or not \u2013 to be or not to be \u2013 I\u2019d really prefer the former, but sooner or later we must all come down to the homestretch in life, and to many humanists the non-existence that awaits at the finish line is nothing to be feared.\u201d\u00a0 Niose added that he expects non-existence after death to be much like it was before birth, which he didn\u2019t mind at all.\u00a0Niose\u2019s seemingly fearless approach may very well work for some, especially those still fairly distant from what they see as the abyss of nothingness.\u00a0 I recall a friend with somewhat the same heroism, if it can be so called, until he was diagnosed with a terminal illness.\u00a0 As I tried to console him in his final days, his fear manifested as severe trembling and a paralyses that prevented him from even talking.\u00a0 \u201cThe moralist must hold his breath and keep his muscles tense; and so long as this athletic attitude is possible all goes well \u2013 morality suffices,\u201d wrote William James, one of the pioneers of psychology.\u00a0 \u201cBut the athletic attitude tends ever to break down and it inevitably does break down even in the most stalwart when the organism begins to decay, or when morbid fears invade the mind.\u201dCarl Jung, another pioneer of modern psychology, took something of a Pascalian view.\u00a0 He wrote that \u201cdeath is an important interest, especially to an aging person.\u201d\u00a0 He added that everyone should have a myth about death, \u201cfor reason shows him nothing but the dark pit into which he is descending. Myth,\u00a0 however, can conjure up other images for him, helpful and enriching pictures of life in the land of the dead.\u00a0 If he believes in them, or greets them with some measure of credence, he is being just as right or just as wrong as someone who does not believe in them.\u00a0 But while the man who despairs marches toward nothingness, the one who has placed his faith in the archetype follows the tracks of life and lives right into his death.\u00a0 Both, to be sure, remain in uncertainty, but the one lives against his instincts, the other with them.\u201dJung likened life\u2019s energy flow to that of \u201ca runner who strives with the greatest effort and utmost expenditures of strength to reach his goal.\u201d\u00a0 Sooner or later, however, the striving ends.\u00a0 \u201cWith the same intensity and irresistibility with which it strove upward before middle age, life now descends; for the goal no longer lies on the summit, but in the valley where the ascent began.\u201d\u00a0 As psychologist Herman Feifel noted, Jung stressed the point that the rationalistic view of death \u2013 that of the nihilist \u2013 tends to isolate man from his psychological self and underlines the need for psychology to digest certain parapsychological findings.\u00a0 Many nihilists, however, are successful in repressing the idea of complete extinction, of obliteration, by engaging in mostly meaningless world activities \u2013 reading fiction, playing golf, watching ball games, whatever, until death comes knocking.\u00a0 \u00a0Jung\u2019s runner analogy, Niose\u2019s metaphorical reference to the \u201chomestretch,\u201d and James\u2019s to the \u201cathletic attitude\u201d all bring to mind the marathon running experience.\u00a0 If I accurately recall the physiological aspects of running the 26.2-mile endurance challenge, the runner depends on carbohydrates in his or her body for energy and then somewhere around 20 miles, when the \u201ccarbs\u201d are depleted, he or she switches over to fat burning to avoid \u201chitting the wall,\u201d as it is called.\u00a0 The runner not properly conditioned to switch from carbs to fat burning will hit that wall and painfully struggle to make it to the finish line.\u00a0 As I see it, the nihilist is much like that unconditioned runner.\u00a0 As he approaches life\u2019s homestretch, his heroic approach dissipates and he begins to flounder.\u00a0 His early courage is now seen as nothing more than bravado.\u00a0 There may be exceptions, but I don\u2019t recall having met one.\u00a0Most of the nihilists I have encountered over the years are rebels against religion and have little or no understanding of the survival evidence gathered outside of orthodox religion.\u00a0 When such evidence is called to their attention, they\u2019ll check Wikipedia and parrot the debunker\u2019s view of whatever phenomenon is being cited. They apply terrestrial standards to celestial matters of which science has no clue.\u00a0 They assume that it is necessary to prove an anthropomorphic God before considering the evidence for survival of the consciousness at death.\u00a0 They further assume that the afterlife is nothing more than strumming harps and praising an angry God, something that seems inconceivable for an eternity.\u00a0 They are victims of scientism, scoffing and sneering at all those subscribing to \u201creligious\u201d superstitions.\u00a0 \u00a0<br>\u00a0<br>Alan Harrington, author of the 1969 book,\u00a0<em>The Immortalist<\/em>, seems to have been a more objective humanist, or nihilist.\u00a0 \u201cAn unfortunate awareness has overtaken our species,\u201d he wrote. \u201cMasses of men and women everywhere no longer believe that they have even the slightest chance of living beyond the grave.\u00a0 The unbeliever pronounces a death sentence on himself.\u00a0 For millions this can be not merely disconcerting but a disastrous perception.\u201dAs Harrington viewed it, when people are deprived of rebirth vision, they \u201csuffer recurring spells of detachment, with either violence or apathy to follow.\u201d\u00a0 Harrington saw mass-atheism as responsible for most, if not all, of society\u2019s ills, including misplaced sexual energy.\u00a0 \u201cOrgies, husband and wife swaps, and the like, more popular than ever among groups of quite ordinary people, represent a mass assault on the mortal barrier,\u201d he opined.\u00a0 If Harrington were alive today, I suspect he would see much of the turmoil and chaos in today\u2019s world resulting from nihilism.\u00a0\u201cThe state of anxiety, the feeling of powerlessness and insignificance, and especially the doubt concerning one\u2019s future after death, represent a state of mind which is practically unbearable for anybody,\u201d wrote Erich Fromm, another humanist philosopher.The nihilist usually interprets all that to suggest that those who are interested in an afterlife are not making the most of this life.\u00a0 Sir Oliver Lodge, a renowned British physicist, was asked about this after devoting much time to psychical research.\u00a0 \u201cIt is no doubt possible, as always, to overstep the happy mean, and by absorption in and premature concerns with future interests to lose the benefit and training of this present life,\u201d he responded.\u00a0 \u201cBut although we may rightly decide to live with full vigour in the present, and do our duty from moment to moment, yet in order to be full-flavoured and really intelligent beings \u2013 not merely with mechanical draft following the line of least resistance \u2013 we ought to be aware that there is a future, a future determined to some extent by action in the present; and it is only reasonable that we should seek to ascertain, roughly and approximately, what sort of future it is likely to be.\u201dHurricane Douglas took a little turn and missed Hawaii by a hundred miles or so, allowing me to make that 1000-month milestone.\u00a0 With other hurricanes expected to follow and with bodily functions gradually shutting down, I don\u2019t know how many months I have left in this realm of existence, but the conviction that my consciousness will survive my physical death permits a certain peace of mind, one which I am pretty certain I would not have as a nihilist.\u00a0 As the great philosopher and poet Goethe put it, \u201cWhen a man is seventy-five he cannot help sometimes thinking about death. The thought of it leaves me perfectly calm, for I am convinced that our spirit is absolutely indestructible\u2026it is like the sun which only seems to sink and in reality never sinks at all.\u201dMichael Tymn is the author of\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Afterlife-Revealed-What-Happens-After\/dp\/1907661905\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1494229039&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=the+afterlife+revealed\">The Afterlife Revealed: What Happens After We Die<\/a><\/em><br>,\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/books\/page\/resurrecting_leonora_piper_how_science_discovered_the_afterlife\/\">Resurrecting Leonora Piper: How Science Discovered the Afterlife<\/a><\/em>, and\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/books\/page\/dead_men_talking_afterlife_communication_from_world_war_i\/\">Dead Men Talking: Afterlife Communication from World War I.<\/a><br>His forthcoming book,\u00a0No One Really Dies: 25 Reasons to Believe in an Afterlife\u00a0is due later in 2020.Next blog post:\u00a0 August 31<\/em><\/td><\/tr><tr><td><strong><br>Comments<\/strong><br>Alan,Thank you for the comment.\u00a0 I must confess that haunted houses is a subject that has not really interested me and I have not watched more than a few minutes of any of those TV programs dealing with the subject.<strong>Michael Tymn<\/strong>, Wed 19 Aug, 20:07<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Dear Michael,Two additional points I might mention with regard to your observations on the stance of the humanist\/nihilist are, on the one hand its essential cold-heartedness, and on the other hand, it\u2019s essential avoidance. With regard to the first, it is not that the humanist merely condemns himself to postmortem oblivion, but that he also condemns all of humanity to the same fate, including those whom he claims most to love and hold most dear. With regard to the second, the first point could be understandable were it not that he is actively avoidant of possible evidence of post-mortem survival contrary to his own dismal view. There is something deeply perverse in this, something that might be inexcusable in an individual, were it not for the fact that so many contemporary humanists\/nihilists are essentially intellectual victims of the culture to which they have been born. Strangely, this often applies most strongly to those who are most intelligent and intellectually accomplished in modern worldly terms, who might be thought to have the wit to see their way out of the intellectual trap, and yet somehow are the ones who tend to be caught in it all the more readily and firmly.<strong>Paul<\/strong>, Wed 19 Aug, 20:06<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Rod,Yes, the book is being processed by White Crow Books.\u00a0 Things are somewhat backed up because of the pandemic.\u00a0 Thank you for your interest.Also, thanks to Gaby for the comment and to Amos for the link and quote. .<strong>Michael Tymn<\/strong>, Wed 19 Aug, 10:35<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Dear Michael thank you for a most interesting and thoughtful post; from recollection Alan Harrington who tackled the meaningless corporate life in his classic \u2018Life in the Crystal Palace\u2019 (1959) was writing about cryogenics and trying to achieve a physical immortality. Over the years talking with many psychic investigators who look into haunted houses few among those who take a parapsychological perspective feel that they have turned up much in the way to support the hypothesis that ghostly manifestations are signs of survival or intelligent communication. However, once disembodied one\u2019s perceptions may be of a wholly different nature which it is impossible to comprehend or describe in language.\u00a0 Of all the ghost hunters I have known personally, writer and broadcaster Dennis Bardens (1911-2004) author of Ghosts and Hauntings (1965) was the most eloquent and optimistic concerning post-mortem survival. Speaking at a meeting of the Ghost Club at the Wig and Pen Club in November 1999 he compared dying to \u201cmoving from one room to another\u201d or \u201cchrysalis turning into a butterfly\u201d. He was convinced by personal experiences and those of many others over he had met over a 70-year period as well as that accumulated by psychical researchers from 1882. At his funeral in February 2004 the cheerful song \u2018Life is Just a Bowl of Cherries\u2019 was played as the closing music to remind mourners of his confidence.<strong>ALAN MURDIE<\/strong>, Wed 19 Aug, 10:18<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Michael,<br>Is your new book still<br>going on sell this year?<br>I look forward to its publication. Thanks!<strong>Rod Johnson<\/strong>, Wed 19 Aug, 03:03<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>I very much enjoyed reading this article and the comments. Everyday conversations even with elderly people do not go very deep into the subject, so it is satisfying for me reading here. Thank you so much, to all. I have no doubt that the soul lives on after death. In my experience, death comes when it is time to come. Often fear of death is in vain.<strong>Gaby Kessler<\/strong>, Tue 18 Aug, 21:59<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Paul and Art,Yes, the afterlife experiences of the nihilist are definitely a consideration.\u00a0 They may very well struggle in a dream world, not realizing they are dead for a period of time, however time plays out there.\u00a0 When my nihilist friend comments that if he\u2019s wrong he\u2019ll know about it right away, I tell him not to count on it. I tell him that I will try to get him to understand that he is dead, but just as he doesn\u2019t believe me know he won\u2019t believe me then.Thanks to Amos for the additional links.\u00a0 They are very interesting and helpful.<strong>Michael Tymn<\/strong>, Tue 18 Aug, 21:24<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Josu\u0117<br>\u201cHappiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will elude you;\u00a0 but, if you turn your attention to other things, it will come and sit softly on your shoulder.\u201d &#8211; Henry David Thoreau<strong>Amos Oliver Doyle<\/strong>, Tue 18 Aug, 19:59<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>I have mentioned several times on this website and provided several links to a German website \u2018Empirische Jenseitsforschung\u2019 on YouTube.\u00a0 I like this website because it provides first-hand information, \u201chard evidence\u201d, from people who have had a near death experience or who experience some other uncommon psychic gifts.\u00a0 This is not second or third hand information from a book written 100 or 150 years ago.\u00a0 It is current up-to date reports of people living today.\u00a0 It is something I refer to as \u201chard evidence\u201d and not embellished by writers who want to sell a book.\u00a0 The information is \u201cstraight from the horse\u2019s mouth\u201d so to speak. The moderator wisely does not ask many leading questions but has a standard list of questions he asks all of the participants he interviews.\u00a0 It is very low key and photographed in high definition; a very well-done interview site.<br>It is in German so that may turn off English speakers but there has been a great effort to provide English translations for most of the interviews.\u00a0 The auto-generated translations are not good so don\u2019t use them.\u00a0 Not all videos have English translations but many do. Check the settings icon at the bottom of the video and turn on the English translation if there is one.<br>\u00a0Don\u2019t stop at just one video.\u00a0 Try to find and watch all of them; there are many.\u00a0 The preponderance of similar information from those who have experienced near death is overwhelming and very convincing. There are differences in the near death experience of course but overall there are some underlying similarities in all of them that support what many bloggers on this site have been saying over and over again and have gleaned from other writers.<br>Don\u2019t overlook this very informative website.\u00a0 I surmise that there are many other sources of paranormal information in the world that are overlooked by English speaking people just because there are not translated into English. e.g., Chico Xavier in Portuguese. Don\u2019t let that stop you from perusing \u2018Empirische Jenseitsforschung\u2019.\u00a0 I think it has some corroborating hard evidence to provide about life after death.\u00a0 \u2013 AOD<br>Here is one of the more recent ones.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=N8VfkmAqiWQ\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=N8VfkmAqiWQ<\/a><strong>Amos Oliver Doyle<\/strong>, Tue 18 Aug, 16:50<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Dear Michael,Another point to bring into the discussion is a consideration of the discarnate cost of a secular, materialist, ,humanist, nihilist framework of belief.\u00a0 Given that such a framework does not accord with reality, there is, as I see it, a twofold cost to be borne.\u00a0 First, that of simply having to unlearn that which one has falsely learned.\u00a0 The degree of difficulty will vary with the individual, but with some \u201chard cases\u201d, they could be \u201cstuck\u201d in their false belief and only extract themselves with difficulty.\u00a0 This is not a \u201cjudgment\u201d but rather the natural consequence of a misalignment of outlook.\u00a0 Second, that of the possible or even likely erosion of character in light of such beliefs and the consequent discarnate consequences attending upon this.\u00a0 Again, this is not a judgment, but rather the natural effect of the \u201cspecific gravity\u201d that leads the soul to discarnate conditions suited to its nature.\u00a0 Of course, many a humanist would claim to be morally \u201cgood\u201d and in a contemporary conventional way many are.\u00a0 But there are fundamental distinctions between such contemporary goodness and goodness traditionally understood.\u00a0 On this, see, for instance, Alastair McIntyre\u2019s \u201cAfter Virtue\u201d.\u00a0 Neither of these costs are considered by the contemporary secular humanist.\u00a0 They are not escaped through such ignorance, however, but rather must be borne in due season.\u00a0 As a final related point, do wonder about the distinction between an essentially privately held humanism vs one that is noisily preached so as to implant the maximum number of incarnate souls with such beliefs. What is the additional attendant cost to be borne by such false secular proselytism?<strong>Paul<\/strong>, Tue 18 Aug, 11:51<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>From all the near death experience descriptions I\u2019ve read death is not exactly like walking through a doorway because the physics of the other side seems to be very different than the physics we normally enjoy here.\u00a0 The physics of heaven seems to be much more akin to what Michael Talbott wrote about in his book The Holographic Universe, the physics of holographic film which means that everything that is here is also there but we won\u2019t be as tied to space and time as we are here and our thoughts will control where and when and what we are experiencing.\u00a0 We won\u2019t be limited to just one space and time like we are in this dimension.\u00a0 Also the separation that we experience here simply doesn\u2019t exist in heaven like it does here which leads me to believe that everything we have loved and lost in this life will be waiting for us on the other side. In other words we get it all back, everything.\u00a0 Which means the separation we have experienced here simply will not exist on the other side.\u00a0 This place we are now is a holographic projection and the other side seems to be the original holographic film from which our current reality is projected from.<strong>Art<\/strong>, Tue 18 Aug, 11:36<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Thanks to all for the comments thus far.\u00a0 As for Dave\u2019s comment, I\u2019m not sure how being \u201cstir-crazy\u201d from confinement overlaps with the fear of death, but I can see some ties. Clearly, much of the world seems to be experiencing some degree of insanity.\u00a0 I think physicist James Beichler hits the nail on the head in suggesting that we are entering an evolutionary period that precedes a probable hereditary leap to a new species of human in the overall human collective and individual human consciousness. He says that such is a leap is preceded by a state of maximum chaos. Can it get any more chaotic?<strong>Michael Tymn<\/strong>, Tue 18 Aug, 01:39<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Thanks for this Mike. Always enjoy your posts. And congratulations for making the 1,000 month mark. I like the month as a market rather than years. Somehow the passing of moons seems more human scale than revolutions around the sun. As for me, I think that death is going to be a great adventure &#8211; one that I\u2019m looking forward to. It will be interesting to know if I still feel that way in my 999th month.All the best, BW<strong>Bart Walton<\/strong>, Tue 18 Aug, 00:20<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Nihilism leads to a kind of hedonistic approach to life. \u201cIf it makes you happy, the rest doesn\u2019t matter\u201d, or \u201cyou have to try to be happy\u201d and other such phrases, so commom today, would look a little eccentric or unexpected in the past. Ancient civilizations like the greek knew that the purpose of life is not to have happiness, but to have purpose, and this can be seen in their famous stories such as the Iliad. Pursuit of happines by itself was considered like a plague, responsible for the fall of civilizations, like the Roman. And pursuit of happiness can paradoxicaly lead to unhapiness. Materialistic people are very often very bitter and envious, and that\u2019s a side effect of the hedonistic mind. And then, sure, when they get old they will have a very hard time to deal with said \u201cextinction\u201d &#8211; when you\u2019re 20 years old it might be easy, but not so much when you\u2019re nearing 75. Sorry for the bad English.<strong>Josu\u00e9<\/strong>, Mon 17 Aug, 23:53<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Enjoyed this witty essay Mike, thanks.\u00a0 I have experienced some spirit contacts with materialists over the years, a couple were with Christopher Hitchens and are available online at my \u201canotherwordofgord.wordpress\u201d blog and are included in my book \u201cEmbracing Your Divinity &#8211; Instead Of Your Doubt\u201d.<strong>gordon phinn<\/strong>, Mon 17 Aug, 22:21<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>I note that an intelligent and compassionate discussion of this topic in the media is as rare an event as finding hen\u2019s teeth. What a shame Mike\u2019s<br>erudite offering does not enjoy far wider coverage; for all out sakes. What can we do about it?<strong>Keith P in England<\/strong>, Mon 17 Aug, 20:05<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>I am as sure that there is a life after bodily death\u2014and this is based on evidence, not on faith\u2014as I am that I am typing this message. But I also have to admit that I don\u2019t fear the idea of extinction. What IS to be feared is the idea of unrelenting pain and punishment after death: and this is what I believe many in the \u2018when you\u2019re dead, you\u2019re dead\u2019 school of thought are really rejecting, whether or not they are aware of it.<strong>James McArthur<\/strong>, Mon 17 Aug, 19:45<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>From a comment in the Daily Telegraph today:<br>The thing you notice about the responses of the self-proclaimed atheists here is that they are angry people, determined to rain on other people\u2019s parades.All they have to do re God is, like Voltaire, say \u2018I have no need of that hypothesis\u2019, but they don\u2019t.<strong>MickeyD<\/strong>, Mon 17 Aug, 19:27<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Another wonderfully erudite article. We must stick to our convictions of survival via the evidence that we have uncovered. There is no other explanation for the best cases that we have uncovered in our quest for truth. Fear is the enemy. P.S. I adore the writing of the Patience Worth persona.<strong>Tricia<\/strong>, Mon 17 Aug, 19:19<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Too much context, Michael. There are no conditions to be met and the only pitfalls to be avoided are created by context. Death itself happens in less than the blink of an eye. Many people are taken completely by surprise at the instantaneous nature of the transition. It is hard to let go of the notion that when alive we are immersed in something with which we must come to terms. Physical existence is a total illusion and all that happens at death is that we are made aware of it. The appropriate response to death should be, \u201cOh, I must have dozed off for a moment. I thought I was having a physical experience.\u201d<strong>Frank Juszczyk<\/strong>, Mon 17 Aug, 19:13<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Hi Mike,Very nice column.\u00a0 As I read it I got the impression that you were discussing the weltenschauung of the post-World War II materialist, reductionist, Darwinist academics.You and I for at least 50 years have been familiar with how they see the world.<br>But something else is going on now. I believe that the Covid-19 Virus pandemic has thrown a monkey wrench into the gears. Several friends that I have had for many decades who are normally well-adjusted and reasonably laid-back have become nervous wrecks due to the effects of the pandemic. The fear of contracting a killer disease and the uncertainty about being able to prevent its contraction has rendered them irritable, cranky, confused and no longer very stable. As the months pass and the number of Covid-19 deaths increases here and elsewhere in the world your average Joe from the 20s through the 80s and beyond have become a jumpy lot indeed.At least in the minds of the materialist, reductionist, Darwinist academics over the years they believe they were applying pure reason and logic to reaching their oblivion conclusion. Now I sense in the case of so many people I know \u2013 my age and much younger \u2013 intensifying fear seems to be blotting out reason. The fear is driving them into desperation in the struggle to avoid becoming a Covid 19 Virus victim.What you have to say about that?Kindest regards,<br>Dave<strong>David Stang<\/strong>, Mon 17 Aug, 18:27<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>I have come to think that if one really believes in survival of a soul and that there is a possibility that the soul reincarnates a few or many times back on earth or some other planet. Then why fear dying?\u00a0 As Helen Keller, who was blind and deaf from early childhood is reported to have once said \u201cDeath is like walking from one room into another. The only difference is that I shall be able to see and hear in that other room.\u201d\u00a0 Just for a moment accept as truth that to a soul in another reality who has lived on earth or other places once or many times, death is nothing, just a walking from one room into another.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t matter how or when one makes that transition or whether the time to return to a life that is short or long, whether peaceful or traumatic.\u00a0 It is of no consequence from that perspective of a parallel reality of the eternal soul. &#8211; AOD<br>On October 16, 1914 the spirit entity Patience Worth dictated to Pearl Curran a poem about dying:<br>Shall I arise and know thee, brother, when like a bubble<br>I am blown into eternity from this pipe of clay?<br>Or shall I burst and float these atoms in a joyous spray<br>At the beholding of this home prepared for me and thee?<br>And shall we together mingle our joys in one supreme joy in Him?<br>It matters not, beloved, so comfort thee,<br>For should the blowing be the end, what then?<br>Hast not thy pack been full, and mine?<br>We are weary of the work of living<br>And sinking into oblivion would be rest.<br>But sure as sun shall rise my dust shall be unloosed,<br>And blown into new fields of new days.<br>I see full fields yet to be harvested, and I am weary;<br>I see fresh business of living, work yet to be done, and I am weary.<br>Oh, let me fold these tired hands and sleep.<br>Beloved, I trust, and expect my trust, for ne\u2019er yet did He fail.<br>Patience Worth: October 15, 1914<strong>Amos Oliver Doyle<\/strong>, Mon 17 Aug, 15:09<br><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"20\" src=\"http:\/\/whitecrowbooks.com\/images\/whitecrow_media\/grid\/dotted_rule_20.jpg\"><br>Another excellent article, and very timely. I note how great numbers of men and women are incarcerating themselves to escape death by the virus. I take the usual precautions and live a fairly normal life. No doubt my attitude is influenced by my confidence that death is not the end. 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