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Why don’t some people want to believe in gods? from Quora

Back when I was an atheist, I had a few reasons that seem fairly common to atheists. I’ve met plenty of atheists who have other reasons. Now that I’m on the other side, I’m starting to see a few of the real reasons for it.

Here’s a general list. (I’m not arguing for the validity of these reasons, just listing them.)

Reasons atheists typically give:

1. Lack of evidence. This is probably what the majority of non-militant atheists will claim as their primary reason for lack of faith. They just don’t see any evidence of God.

2. It’s a “crutch,” and I don’t need one. Many atheists view religion as a sort of emotional/personal support that they are strong enough not to need.

3. God is outdated or an old way to explain difficult aspects of the world. This is the “science can explain it all” approach. God is seen as a concept that was used to explain why the sun went up in the morning before we knew about celestial mechanics. It’s a sort of outgrowth of the fallacy of chronological snobbery.

4. Religion has harmed a lot of people. They point to things like the ongoing sectarian violence in the Middle East or the Inquisition and Crusades, and believe that if religion didn’t exist, we would probably live in greater peace. This is typically a view of more militant atheists who want not just to co-exist with religious followers without being proselytized to, but who want to actively stamp out religious belief.

5. Religion is a system of control. This belief views religion as the “opiate of the masses,” as Marx once said. Religious belief tends to be hierarchical, and those at the top use their position to keep people under control. Concepts like blessed are the poor or meek are viewed as keeping people happy in poverty and donating their ten percent to the already wealthy priests at the top.

6. I don’t need God to be moral or “good.” Religion is viewed, similarly to the system of control, as a system of rules and regulations to morality, with justifications for breaking those moral rules when it suits the religious. For example, “do not kill, except the infidels who don’t believe in our cause.” Atheists often state that there are alternative ethical theories that perfectly allow morality without God, such as game theory.

7. The Problem of Pain. Atheists often use the mere fact of an imperfect world as justification that a loving, omnipotent God doesn’t exist. (And if God is not loving or all-powerful, then what’s the point, really?) They believe that if God really was as advertised, we should live in a perfect paradise. Apologists for faith have long sought to reconcile this exact problem, and the fact that there is no convincing answer is often enough for atheists to justify their lack of faith with this.

8. Contradictory holy texts. Many atheists I know typically are against mostly just mainstream Christianity and sometimes Islam, and don’t have a problem with more “philosophical religions” such as Taoism, because they point to apparent contradictions in the religious texts. They view these holy texts as one giant book, not as individual constituent texts written by dozens of people over thousands of years.

8a. Painting all believers with a broad brush. Many atheists point to views like Creationism and paint all believers with that broad brush. They refuse to believe because they are under the impression that they must sign up to all of the views of religion, which often contradict with what they see as rational thought or scientific belief. Because Creationism is easily disproved, the whole thing must be false, in other words. While not all atheists do this, I find a great many of them do, particularly ones who are active on the internet.

Reasons that atheists either won’t admit to or don’t even realize:

1. They personally have been hurt by religion and want revenge. I’ve met a number of atheists, usually the militant ones who want to stamp out religion and not just allow for difference of opinion, who at some point experienced either persecution or ridicule by believers and who have a personal grudge against them. Many of these atheists were believers at one point, and when the church didn’t have the answers they wanted or when they chose not to wholeheartedly march in lockstep theologically with their peers, they were shamed, ridiculed, excommunicated, or otherwise outcast. Religion hurt them, and now they’re going to hurt it back.

2. Religion didn’t live up to their expectations. This is the issue of wanting a god in our own image, rather than the other way around. Founder of the “Freedom From Religion Foundation” Dan Barker basically exemplifies this. He was an evangelical pastor, and he found that God didn’t measure up to what he personally expected. He had questions his fellow believers couldn’t answer, and he felt like God didn’t personally speak to him in ways he wanted. So, he took his football and went home, basically. He quit believing and started an organization that, like reason 1 above, sought revenge on the religion that didn’t live up to his expectations. If the God he wanted to exist didn’t, then no god could.

3. The Slot-Machine God. Many believers get frustrated with God and walk away because they view God as a benevolent grandfather who should just give them what they want. Pray the right prayer, say the magic words, and God should shower down some blessings. If God isn’t just blessing you with things you want, it’s because either He doesn’t like you, or you did something wrong. This view of God tends to cause believers to become disillusioned over time, and ultimately walk away from God in many situations as they realize this isn’t true. It’s something of a subset to reason #2 above.

4. They discount evidence because they personally don’t like it. I’ve been in plenty of discussions with atheists where they just keep moving the goalposts because they don’t happen to like the evidence, or it isn’t convincing enough to them, or they have some sort of convoluted potential scientific explanation that might maybe explain it without resorting to God. I’ve met atheists who have twisted themselves into Windsor knots to save themselves when confronted with examples of people who have been healed by God. I would like to be clear, this is not all atheists.

5. Pride. The view “I don’t need a crutch,” or “I can explain things some other way even if I can’t right now, so God can’t exist,” or “I can be moral all on my own, thank you very much,” are really all pride. They don’t want to believe in God because they think that they are better than God. I doubt many if any atheists would say that out loud, but it’s certainly a factor.

6. Insecurity. I think some atheists actually fear God a little bit, though they would absolutely never admit it. These are typically the angry, militant atheists who go online and will probably try to comment on this and call me names or try to talk me out of my faith. I’m starting to realize that these kinds of atheists are just really insecure about their lack of faith and can’t own up to it. They have to justify their lack of belief by going around and disproving believers or putting them down. They can’t genuinely dismiss God, so they have to find fault with anything a believer says to feel better about themselves. These kinds of atheists are usually spotted by lots of snarky comments, insulting statements made towards believers, and other trollish behavior.

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This is neither a comprehensive or definitive list, but it is what I have seen in my experience both as an atheist and as a believer.480 viewsView Upvoters8066 That’s from Quora

In my LG experience its mainly about anger. They simply can’t be Calmly Curious. Anger prevents their creative forebrains working. Many will lie and say the BEGINNERS TOUR tour doesn’t work. Nothing happened to me, they badger. So God doesn’t exist so Nyeah. That childishness is so easily dealt with. I simply ask them to get a female, sister or mother, to do the BEGINNERS TOUR and they will teach this militant atheist how to do it

That’s when the militant atheist goes totally quiet.

Its not always anger but frequently Asperger Syndrome which prevents them connecting dots and having metaphorical memories like the rest of us. So Aspergers is a learning disability which dooms them to being 19th century materialists. Spirituality utterly baffles them which makes them angry.

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This is an answer to the question How does a sleepwalker awaken and produce a website that induces Gnosis in others ?

1932 my mother was born and mandatory vaccines came along, at 6 months old, she was given no choice but to have a smallpox vaccine. It gave her instant full blown smallpox. That happens in about 8 pc of cases to people genetically predisposed to eczema a skin rash.. That’s why mass usage of smallpox vaccine was ultimately stopped because it was so injurious. Now back to 1932 the mother was told to take little Audrey home and to not even bother bathing her and just let her die. But a few days later the child was being bathed and unexpectedly Little Audrey beat smallpox and recovered completely (?) She still has visible smallpox scars on her face that can be spotted by keen eyed doctors at age 90.
So in 1952 in Sheffield I was born and screamed for 12 months, never slept, neither did my unfortunate parents. One doctor finally discovered I had ruptured my navel during birth which causes great pain. He simply put a truss a sort of compressive bandage on my navel and I stopped screaming a few minutes later. I was taken home and slept silently for two days. And the navel problem repaired itself.
I have no memory of this because modern researchers say we have don’t have working memories till we are 3 years old.
I was an avid reader. And by 14 I had already noticed that many people were happy to believe things that were wrong. So many people just went along with things.
So, I was still a sleepwalker at this stage.
Age 16 I got an apprenticeship Radio Electronics Technician in the national phone company.
Always had an interest in Psychic phenomena OBEs etc.
In my 20s I did a medical electronics course which explained to me in great detail that we are essentially electric beings. I learned a lot about Electrocardiograph machines ECG Electro encephalographs (EEG Brainwaves ) Lie detectors Defibrillators etc I found this profoundly fascinating but was disappointed in my highly intelligent workmates all electronics experts who were highly resistant to the notion that they were full of natural electronics themselves. That their nervous system was a bucket brigade of cells that flipped their potentials from 20 mv to 90 mv to signal the next nerve cell along the chain drew only blank faces from them.
Age 26 I learned Transcendental Meditation TM which had profound effect on me. It was the beginning of my awakening. The cumulative effects of doing it for 12 months astonished me. I began to think What was I before TM ? I had changed so much. They provided spectrum analyzer graphs of brainwaves of people going in and out of TM trances and the brainwave coherence was visibly different. Differences could be discerned even more when people did group meditations. So the invisible connections between people were here demonstrated. Even more exciting was the siddha techniques that TM teachers learned and the square root of 1pc of the population formula greatly impressed me. One could “feel” a TM teacher walk into the room. Their brainwave coherence radiated and calmed the chemistry of others. I attended group meditations for several years. That had a great effect on me.
While doing this I also did young man stuff, skindiving, rally driving, olympic style weightlifting and learning French at night school, reading lots of new age books and magazines. I had been captured early by french singer Mireille Mathieu collected all her records. Many many years later when youtube began I uploaded 120 of her song videos and with American disk jockey Jim Witt we started Mimi Street which was a shopfront for her videos, hundreds of them. The idea being that it would stimulate other people worldwide to pull their secretly recorded Mimi gem videos out of the closet and make them available on youtube for millions to enjoy. And it worked. Today we have hundreds more song videos from Russia and all sorts of places. Mimi street raises the spirits of millions of people.
In the mid 1990s After some 25 years of TM I was working in Sydney weekend markets and was just playing around with Remote Viewing and was astonished at what I could do. It had a major awakening effect on me because it caused me to seriously ask the question
What am I ? It means my awareness can go anywhere, so do I really have any boundaries?
Clearly my physical body is only the centre point of my awareness
I was also playing about clicking my Amygdala at Neil Slades website, where I also learned something else that is truly mindblowing for a sleepwalker, namely Cloud Busting. YES we can all do this. Its possible to vapourise small clouds with a simple meditation exercise. You pick a group of 4 small clouds, and zap one of them. It can disappear in a few seconds with a simple mental exercise. Which once again raises the huge question Is our existence simply a mental construct ? Like errr.. what else can I get rid of with mind power ? And what could I create ?
So further “games” enabled me to make even more shocking gains that got me laughing a lot. I was able to sit in a food court. And I was able to heat other peoples foreheads so much I could make them drop their newspapers and rub their foreheads vigorously. Then I found I could do it on any part of their face. Couldn’t do it at all if they were munching on food.
It was in food malls I discovered I could Remote View around corners. The moral being that we can do lot more than we suppose if we just try the unthinkable.
So here I was literally awakening to the fact that I was a lot more than a simple 2 legged upright creature created by accident to feed predators, as our scientism technocracy would have us believe. In fact I seemed to be able to stretch in all directions I seemed to be unbounded, the only limitations being my own mind.
It was about 1995 when I was enjoying messing with RV that I began having visions. Outstanding in the fact that they were brilliant in high resolution and clarity. It soon became obvious something was teaching me. I gave all my attention to this stream of communication because it was far mor interesting than RV. A communication protocol was established that included dreams, daytime visions (daydreams) messaging music, hand and foot tingles. (not soft prickles. my K rise hadnt happened yet). I found this wonderfully exciting though I wasn’t quite sure what it was that was doing all this. Being a technician I was doing essentially fault analysis and I have a great interest in psychology so I was adding up all the attributes of this entity. It just cant be a disease because the damned thing loves me so much. Attends me like a newborn child, pouring pure affection on me. Greeting me in the mornings with joyful songs. Showing me wonderous things. It seems to be so much at home within me. Diseases don’t do that……. It was a Wednesday night when a Roy Orbison song spoke to me and I suddenly realised what was possessing me, with such overpowering affection. It was Mr G. Burst into tears of joy did I. Somehow I had made it home. Best day of my life.
I was ecstatic for days. Was totally carefree. Nirvana. But the Euphoria only lasted 3 weeks. Because one morning I was awakened and told something totally unexpected, that I had never given the slightest thought to, as a brainwashed sleepwalker. A very angry voice told me that The Holocaust was a complete fraud. Great anger was communicated. So the holiday was over. Thus I began just collecting information that came across my computer desktop on that subject. And I verified that in a year or two. And l learned so much more about the psychology of H proponents. And that is a great evil force that causes us so much unnecessary misery especially since about 1812. And we might say even off planet forces play a role in this, also.

I was asked later to produce a website TBH. First I had to learn how to make a website.
Many immense difficulties I contended with, such as people’s sleep walker behaviour, where they tend to remain fixated on the obvious externals to themselves, and eschew introspection. The different personalities and IQs and how to deal with religious fundamentalists, secular people, creative people, spiritual people, authoritarian people, asperger people.
I had to consider how all these many personalities could be brought together to contend with very complicated metaphysical terminologies that are often downright confusing and contradictory. So I elected to avoid all psychology psychiatric and metaphysical language.
What was needed, for our modern science mad technocracy was repeatable physical proof, and they be given an entirely new simple but adequate vocabulary, with visual images, written text, teaching videos with much repetition and a drill sergeant delivery. Of all my teachers, Army instructors to me, seem to be the best, because they care.
I was also hugely aware of of the vast amount of preconceived false beliefs inculcated in us by holy books and the avalanche of programming that is poured into us faster than we can ever digest. For example most awakening people seriously believe they should be able to heal all diseases. That’s the power of holy books. I have been to so many healing seminars where nobody gets healed. Its a New Age industry. Makes a fortune.
The idea of the BEGINNERS TOUR is to try and get people to let go of all their beliefs briefly and just learn a simple new plaything, like a small child, which triggers the gentle drip feed of Divinity into a sleepwalkers awareness and give them some physical repeatable proof that something has changed. Something they can practice daily. By so doing they are practising self attunement.
It takes all kinds to make this world. People have asked , What is a drip feed ? What do you mean by that ? Like, they have never seen a Hospital TV show. LOL.
Obviously intelligent people have repeatedly asked me Where do you start ? I discovered some people suffer confusion when seeing new things. A Start button is not enough. They need a moving attention grabbing animation to find the start button. Directly under my Picture. Something to recognize from the videos.
A few people have said they discovered this hand body field thing when they were a kid. But it was useless had no value or meaning so they forgot about it. because of their total lack of introspection. I have shown the handtrick by itself to many people for years and not one person ever came back to me and said I figured it out. I purposely chose a wide range of people, some very bright people. They couldn’t figure out its function. So that’s why everybody needs the formal lesson of the BEGINNERS TOUR.

It definitely works. Many hundreds have come into the site and left much happier. Quite a few are “brought” in by Mr G. It doesn’t occur to many that Mr G could use the Internet.
One finding is that we only get a trickle of shy introspective brights coming in. We have never to my knowledge, had a raving extrovert life- of-the- party drunken fornicator come into the site.
How do I know hundreds have passed thru the site ? Originally there was hit counter on the front page. And very small number of people are kind enough to supply feedback to the email button. So their comments form part of the BEGINNERS TOUR I call them “footprints left by others” and some people are metaphor blind and don’t get that.
I can also receive internal signals that someone significant is rummaging thru the site.
If its an American I will hear American football music, their national anthem. But I will also get Marilyn Monroe singing Happy Birthday Mr President JFK Its a very famous clip and I’m the President of this whole operation, you see.
For Canadians I hear the Lumberjack song. I have a British sense of humour.
French people I get the Marsellaise.
God save the Queen turns up for UK people.
I cant recall what signals Germans finding the site, but it would likely be a Mireille Mathieu song like Mussi Denn or something.
The site is fully automated and requires no activity from myself. This is vital for people who want to keep this wonderful experience completely to themselves. They have a right to that. And they shouldn’t have to talk to me.
So there, I don’t do any hocus pocus, eenie meenie chilli beanie stuff, at all.

Interestingly I have had notes from people who have waited 9yrs to tell me I am the only person speaking the truth on the internet. Because the Internet is essentially disinfo, I suppose.
That’s happened a few times. A lady in Paris found the site in the middle of the night she asked me to explain a couple of things in French and she quickly reported hearing beautiful messaging music that took her breath away. Long silence for 2 years. And she wrote back saying she had done the whole thing, K rise etc and verified everything I said.
Maria was her name I think. Her comments are in the Beginners Tour somewhere. She was pleasantly surprised. At the 2 year report I asked her if she could relate any Gnostic adventures? Being shy the answer was silence. That’s mostly the case. LOL
So I am only briefly inside someones life like a driving instructor to explain the new YOU basics. Gnosis is about doing everything yourself. You don’t need Gurus.
This description of how myself a Godling sleepwalker, awakens to know their divine spark and produces a website to induce gnosis in others, was requested by a fascinating fellow named Adam in the UK. He is a Natural born Gnostic, raised in a Muslim family. He seems lucky to be lacking the brain tissue restraining bolt that everyone else has, possibly by a mere DNA mutation. Same mutation that produces seers, mediums, healers etc So he has enjoyed direct access to God all of his life, not always realising that, and had some difficulty perceivng that he was different to everybody else. His conventional Muslim family doesn’t know what he is talking about. They are sleepwalkers, bless them.
So I can now add something of mild interest.
My wife is a Natural Born Gnostic. Yet still she is devoutly Muslim and enjoys religious rituals Ramadan etc. Her hands are pictured in the BEGINNERS TOUR.
Her understanding of the Koran and Islam is fairly shallow as she only knows the Meccan Koran. That’s all they do in Fiji. Meccan Koran is all about love thy neighbour stuff obviously plagiarised from the bible. That method of recruitment didn’t work for Mohammed for 10 yrs in Mecca. he only got 150 followers. For abusing other faiths in Mecca, he was exiled to Medina where he found a more compelling way to convince people, that he was a divine prophet. Decapitation. Jihad. A remarkable motivator. 260 million deaths followed. And the problem continues today.
My wife has no knowledge of the Jihad section of the Koran. The other half of the book. So she was shocked to learn that muslims elsewhere, like the middle east, are reading a very violent different holy book that includes the Medina section.
So what makes my Natural Gnostic wife still do religious rituals? Answer – its in her DNA, in her brain structures and her nervous system as it is in yours, and everybody else’s.
There has never been an atheist society in the history of man. Scholars explain this. So it must have some survival value. Humorously, Atheist Evolutionists, want Evolution, but Evolution doesn’t want Atheists- LOL it produces naturally religious people in such vast numbers.
I bathe in this irony 3 times daily.

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•  Messaging day dreams (visions?) physically verified
• Signalling music to slowly morph into an internal mentoring voice just like Socrates and Plato described
• Expect keywords names and even websites to be typed into your mindseye with info vital to YOUR personal life.
• Holy book readers will find their misunderstandings corrected by the internal mentoring voice
• Go to http://www.truebluehealer.com
• Do the 20 mins BEGINNERS TOUR
• All questions answered And its FREEEE
• See you back at the website http://www.truebluehealer.com
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On the matter of Lay Gnosis and mediums there is an instructive true story. On the TBH Responses page is a fellow named Sam. If memory serves his wife’s name was Gina. They ran a health food store in Greenville South Carolina. Happy Lay Gnostics they were, until Gina caught measles which put her in bed for two weeks with a raging fever. Apparently a small amount of brain damage occurred and Gina discovered she had become a medium as her restraining bolt had dissolved. It meant she couldn’t walk past the town cemetery because dozens of discarnate deceased people were yelling obscenities into her mindseye. So bad it was, she had to stay away from that part of town. Those were deceased people trapped in the cemetery location, who were foul mouthed unpleasant angry people.
But there were some upsides. In he health food shop, Gina would notice people sidling into the shop looking a bit lost and uncomfortable. Didn’t know why they were there. Gina would start talking to them and discover this person was brought into the shop, needing to know some vital information from Gina. That’s happened to myself in Sydney many times also.

In her new medium role, a deceased local grandmother contacted Gina, and explained a vital piece of information that a local family needed to know. Names were not supplied. But the unique marker was, that the person concerned to be contacted, had cooked bacon and eggs for breakfast at precisely 8-10 am. So Gina was reduced to asking every customer entering the shop, about 30 people before lunch, the ridiculous question “Did you fry eggs and bacon at 8-10 this morning ?”
After numerous blank looks and denials finally one puzzled person said Ummm…errr…..YES…..
Hurrah ! Bingo ! Said Gina. A message for you , from your Grandma – “The will is under the carpet beneath the couch” A surprised smile crossed the visitors face. Later the customer returned explaining YES, the lost will was found in that exact place and that’s been a great relief to everyone.
Deceased spirits see the medium essentially as a window back into the world they inhabited formerely.
On physical death. our restraining bolt is removed. We experience a tremendous sense of release and freedom. And from their adjacent channel of existence, they have near Godlike powers, they can see us, though we can’t see them, they can communicate in dreams with us, sometimes even speak out loud, they can tilt pictures, and cause clouds of dragonflies, butterflies and even birds of one kind to congregate around a house. Owls. Plenty Afterlife books on this subject Amazon.

I attended a seance in Wallacia western Sydney suburb, organised by Victor and Wendy Zammit. people arrive in a rag tag fashion and we do tea and biscuits for an hour or so and chat before the main event. As an electrical engineer my attention was drawn to the flickering incandescent light in the middle of the large lounge room. Of course I went into immediate diagnostic mode noticing this wasn’t random arcing caused by a bad connection or broken switch, there was a distinct and very evident clean frequency visible in the pulsing light , a pulse repetition rate that was intelligently sustained. As if by an oscillator or something. None of the other house lights were flickering. Hmmm….. I noticed. I then forgot about that and talked to several other people over more tea and biscuits. One lady surprised me by saying Have you noticed the Flickering Light ? She said Thats my husband, he died two years ago, and he doesn’t like being dead, so he prefers to stay with me, following me around flickering lights everywhere I go.
Since his death, she became a medium, and he chats with her any old time.
That seems a common occurrence. Montague Keens wife went thru the same process of becoming a medium after Keen died thus their married life continued.
Montague Keen was President of the UK SPR group I made a video or two about him. And his contribution to Afterlife studies.

A further instance of this occurred, when my Brother- in- Law Channan in Fiji died unexpectedly at the healthiest happiest time of his life, thanks to me supplying him with a magic pill Benfotiamine that reversed his diabetic neuropathy (Beri Beri) very quickly. He had been diagnosed with untreatable diabetes damage that would soon cause his death. After his rapid recovery on the Benfotiamine he went back the Hospital Endocrinoologist and abused him for not knowing about Benfotiamine. The doctor was taken aback by Channan’s suprising aggression and vigour because 3 weeks earlier he was so ill he couldn’t stand up.
Despite his unexpected return to health Channan began talking about himself in the past tense for about 6 months. As a mechanic he would call up customers and say their car is ready and they would turn up finding Channan playing “dead”slumped over the bonnet. He was a great practical joker. And he got better and better at playing dead and scared numerous superstitious people. (native Fijians) Later it was realised he was preparing everyone for his exit.
He kept telling his 5 sons that they all had to finish building the new house because he wouldnt be around much longer. So he ensured they all new how to do the work required. It was noticed he did this with some noteworthy formal thoroughness.
So it seemed as if he had obtained permission to die as he had achieved all of his life goals.
You can find this in many afterlife books.
So when he died, he was so very healthy and happy thus everyone was shocked, but suddenly it all came clear that he had prepped everybody for his exit. 500 people turned up at his funeral. He was highly respected in the community because he did ultra cheap repairs for the poverty stricken country town of Nadi.
After the funeral, it was noticed, in the new house that the ceiling light was flickering. Being mechanics all, the bulb was quickly replaced. But the new bulb flickered identically.
This is in a newly wired new house full of new switches and cabling. It puzzled the boys.
Anyway, sometime later they were all in another room and the ceiling light was flickering in a notable way. The first room light had stopped flickering.
By the time this had repeated in a third room they deduced it was Channan following them from room to room.
He was essentially proving to them that death is a myth. Just a very convincing illusion.
Which raises the question Who or what produces this most convincing illusion ?
Channan, using his newfound near God- like powers, restraining bolt removed, travelled 3000 Kms to Sydney and flickered lights in 3 Sydney homes of relatives including mine, on many occasions. I would sit and talk to him in the middle of the night, as he flickered overhead lights. I could never see him. But likely he was standing right next to me in a different channel of reality. He also inserted dream greetings to a few people in these three Sydney homes. It went on for 6 months.
So the most convincing illusion might be death, which raises the question, What else is illusion ?

Victor and Wendy Zammit run a free weekly email service that supplies copious amounts of Afterlife evidence compiled over 150 yrs. Its a good reminder of how much we sleepwalk past vital information

http://www.victorzammit.com

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Lay Gnosis and OBEs

Only about 10pc of people can actually do OBEs because they have what amounts to a property (defect?) that enables them to do it, whereas 90pc of people can’t do OBEs because they naturally fall asleep when their brainwaves drop to 16 Hz. The 10pc who do succed , seem to have a slight defect such as insomnia, or mild brain damage from an NDE.

Quite a few advocates recommend getting up in the middle of the night staying awake and meditating. Others recommend sleep deprivation so that one is required to take frequent naps and is always tired. Like a shiftworker who is always tired working unnatural hours, which I did for about 20yrs while doing deep meditation with a mind machine. Not one OBE in 20 yrs.
I can do them but only for short periods. One is usually challenged quickly with a thousand foot drop which causes disorientation and going straight back into body. Which is a shame one of my favourite destinations is Grand Canyon where the Coyote lands.

It has seemed to me that biorhythms have an effect on the ability to do OBEs.

So for me Sunday is the best day of the week the peak and Monday is the worst. So my abilities improve as the week goes on toward Friday.

A further problem is that there is NO one technique for OBEs that works for everybody as in Lay Gnosis.
So for OBEs each person must devise their own method. Its connected to lucid dreaming which is difficult, insomniacs find it easier again to become aware one is dreaming and trope the dream where you want it to go.
Another reason only a few people can do OBEs is that they are helped – yanked out of their bodies by spirits or Mr G. So these people are chosen. They have a job to do. Some on youtube.
I have been yanked out of my body because I wanted to go somewhere. Its quite an experience.
Close, your eyes, calm down and go here F681K

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Circulating list of the misused “just……….. ” dismissal phrase

I see it as a serious trap we all enjoy walking into, using the “Just………..” dismissal phrase BUT it provides an obvious solution by its active non-use.

Boiling the Frog Slowly
When is it just too much??
It’s just a mask.
It’s just six feet.
It’s just two weeks.
It’s just non-essential businesses.
It’s just non-essential workers.
It’s just a bar.
It’s just a restaurant.
It’s just to keep from overwhelming the hospitals.
It’s just until the cases go down.
It’s just to flatten the curve.
It’s just a few inmates.
It’s just to keep others from being scared.
It’s just for a few more weeks.
It’s just church. You could still pray.
It’s just prayer.
It’s just until we get a vaccine.
It’s just a bracelet.
It’s just an app.
It’s just for tracing.
It’s just to let people know you’re safe to be around.
It’s just to let others know who you’ve been in contact with.
It’s just a few more months.
It’s just some more inmates.
It’s just a video.
It’s just a post.
It’s just an email account.
It’s just for protecting other from hate speech.
It’s just for protecting others from hurt feelings.
It’s just a large gathering but for protests.
It’s just a few violent protests.
It’s just a little micro chip.
It’s just a blood test.
It’s just a test.
It’s just a scan.
It’s just for medical information.
It’s just to store a vaccination certificate.
It’s just like a credit card.
It’s just a few places that don’t take cash.
It’s just so you can travel.
It’s just so you can get your driver’s license.
It’s just so you can vote.
It’s just mail-in voting.
It’s just a few more years.
It’s just a statue.
It’s just a monument.
It’s just a building.
It’s just a song.
It’s just a lyric.
It’s just an anthem.
It’s just a few words.
It’s just a piece of paper.
It’s just a book.
It’s just a movie.
It’s just a TV show.
It’s just a cartoon character.
It’s just a piece of cloth.
It’s just a flag.
It’s just a dog at a protest.
It’s just a clump of cells.
It’s just a fetus.
It’s just a religion.
It’s just a holiday.
It’s just your guns.
It’s just the police.
It’s just the military
It’s just your freedoms….gone forever.

And “It’s just” the way they planned it.
2% of the impassioned can rule over the 98% apathetic.
It’s not like we don’t see it coming.
Please America, collectively as a nation law abiding citizens of the United States… we MUST FIGHT BACK.
WE MUST.
BEFORE ITS ALL GONE and we won’t have the ability to get it back.
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Answer.

Itsa major mistake we all habitually make,  as a quick convenience to get our head around something we dismiss it as “just………..  ” in order to not take  the thing too seriously,  so that it doesn’t affect our Big Picture “take”. Problem is it’s overdone, way too much.  The more widely it’s applied the more it invites its practitioners  to sneeringly dismiss anything out of habit. Hippies did this in the 60s. A quick glib description, a throw away line, was enough for it to catch on as a cool philosophy that doesn’t require any knowledge of reality. Replacing education. Cool phrases are trendy, people like hearing them, so they propagate. It’s crippled France politically because the “intellectuals” the lefties, dismiss everything as “just……….”.  Always preferring to have a trendy minority sneering anti opinion, is what leads to hating one’s society, from top to bottom.  Because its all  “just………..”   I have met numerous french people who detest everything mainstream, they fancy themselves as elite  with their “just…………”  label on everything conventional. Its a natural tendency exploited by  Cultural Marxism  which has done great damage to the western world.  So we invite Cultural Marxism in, with that  ” it’s just……….”  phrase. 
It’s far superior for a society to value things and be thankful for what we have achieved, on the backs of generations of hard working people, than essentially hating everything and dismissing their legacy with that  well worn phrase. Which is what lefties do.   So they most readily fall into the trap of overusing  that  put down phrase. 

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This is the true life experience of a person hearing `Poor Wandering One` internally for decades. Thus we call Jill Semi Gnostic because she is literally hearing the Divine Spark pleading to join hands with her. But she never got the message, for years, that something wanted dialogue with her. Never asked who is that, singing to me ?

More than 50pc of people hear internal music. Einstein heard it and never figured it out….. so its not about IQ

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